(This is why Foote was assigned the case. What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. But why was the judge in family court hopping over to criminal court? What man has ever publicly revered a former secret mistress? No OTHER reason. But for what it is worth, I believe she tried to kill her 3 kids. They never tried to reunite them with family. Despite all of this: that the attorney became a Foster Carer irrelevant, inflammatory, subjective and bears no reflection on the trial, or indeed the trial outcome. Most were married because Diane had no desire to remarry. As for how to answer this question,,, seems like he is assuming guilt and because of this my parents or me or my brothers and sister, our uncles and aunts were not considered because of an unproven allegation Does he truly believe this is ok??? Except after the idea was subsequently planted in his head only to be alluded to in court, in spite of an agreement to never mention the subject. statement regarding the effects of the childrens medications while in hospital should acknowledge where the blogger obtained information about the side effects.). At what point during these meetings did she start calling him Dad? This same witness corroborated that Diane did not stop to do something suspicious or dispose of the gun. a clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. Let me tell you, it wasnt just the investigators and the prosecution that didnt believe herwe, Oregonians, (who ACTUALLY live here and watched what was happening) believe she is guilty. All smoke and mirrors to fit a certain scenario. 3. She learnedat a young age to keep her emotions in check and to always present a strong and brave front. The State had the same gut feeling and made sure she would pay. you quoted what diane said as to what happened When she resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. I appreciate the way you dont try to determine guilt or innocence in your blogs but instead focus on due process and the right of all to a fair trial. Saying that I seem to be doing what I accuse Ann Rule of doing is kind of ironic because the point of this blog is to try to stay away from innuendo and fantasies like unicorns and songs that might have been playing or not during a tragic murder. Aint no one gonna tarnish my guys lol. And to try not to bash Dianes Downs character and stick to evidence instead. Is. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. Even put in different hospitals. Hardly circumstantial or coincidental what are the chances that a bushy haired stranger, masked men, or someone that knew her (take your pick from Dianes ever shifting account) would have the exact same bullets matching to bullets from a gun owned by Diane ? She did not have the opportunity to clean her hands with the right product to erase all traces and she was tested pretty fast, contrary to many other cases. I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. So they did everything in their power to slant the media and the public in their favor. Steve Downes has voiced the Master Chief in the Halo games since his 2001 debut, and his voice has become synonymous with the character.However, despite Jen Taylor being asked to reprise her role as the . CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. Mr. Thats food for thought. Even if I have no doubt that Hugi loved the kids, we have to wonder why he adopted them two years later just when little Christie started saying she had no clue who shot them. As a result, joint legal custody which means parents share in the decision-making 1 is becoming the default decision in many family court systems. But I know that there were major problems with this case. This blog is riddled with inconsistencies, suppositions and a lack of the most basic referencing (e.g. It was a fairly new science at the time so thats all it took to find him not guilty. He hired Jim Jagger on the 1st of June 1983, 11 days after the shooting. The unreliability of childrens testimony has been documented by cognitive psychologists such as Elizabeth Loftus of the University of Cornell and others. I am not one sided. Regina, I love your comment! And I care about the lack of evidence. Why am I not arguing the facts of the trial? tell someone else. It is called a conflict of interest. Steven and Diane married on November 13, 1973. Why is there virtually no info on him? I like your approach. My beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule Too bad it triggered you, maybe try to stay away from sites that might not go along with the mob mentality and usual media narrative. I look forward to reading your other blogs. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. It is not my point. During closing arguments, Fred Hugi said that the murder weapon used by Diane was a Ruger, and the state had the model number and the bill of sale. Lise do you know if the kids have ever reached out to the grandparents/family in the last few years? But in the case of DD, there were a lot of elements missing. Surprisingly, he accepted the new child and learned to love him dearly. Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. That is the way she was brought up,especially at the demand of her rigid but verydedicated father. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular: this blog is clearly one sided. I have researched the case and pointed out discrepancies and the fact that it was not the slam dunk that they were portraying. I would like to see her released because I do not believe in life without parole for any inmate with no priors who had a good conduct while incarcerated. Now if the shooter was this James Haynes guy, someone who apparently Diane Downs knew from buying drugs, then that would explain why she stopped in the middle of that road. A. I was still living in the house, yes, sir. The Cinemaholic reports that Steve was often known for being immature and irresponsible, something that didn't see their rekindled relationship get off to the best start. They said so and were told to go back to deliberate. She was extremely intelligent but her emotional IQ was no match and her desire for freedom, love and affection were dangerously dragging her down a path of self-destruction. Something that would never stand in court now. It was known as Manic Depression. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. But if the blogger is arguing that the blog is balanced and objective, thats patently untrue. I watched the highlights of her hearing. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. No worries. If the grandparents and uncle had visitation rights, they could have respected some rules as far as not discussing the case, but imagine if she had told them that she did not remember? Further: Wonder about Justice in Nation with world wide highest prisoner rate. And that Ann Rule took advantage of the situation to sell her book. Thanks for the link. Tis why at 10 years old I was hearing about this case in Ohio, and family members talked about it around me.it hit with great force that way. WTF? A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch.. In the spring of 1986, Christie confided to school mates that shed been coerced to lie in court, to implicate her mother (Appendix 1-2). Up. The court can just do an APR, Assignment of Parental Rights. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. It goes on and on. You said that the absence of both prove she couldnt have been to shooter and you claim it takes real scrubbing to remove GSR. Foote ruled in favor of the prosecution and against the defenseon most of the admissible evidence questions including all the nurses notes about Danny talking about a man shooting him but admitted Christies reports about her mother shooting her. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. After parting ways, the couple would soon meet again in Arizona which would end up in them reigniting and reconnecting their fling. The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. Mostly, because it was poorly investigated and they focused on Diane solely the minute they met her. After all, Cheryl Downs is basically serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole for her mothers crime. Hed left his first wife to co-habitate with (and later marry) Charlene. She did not fit in and was now anxious to assert her independence and live her own life. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? Nobody knows but her. Im from Australia and have recollections of this case. Yes, but it is a fact that she was starting to say that she did not know who shot them when it happened. So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis. it also isnt right that the rules get to keep being changed after the fact as far as how often one may apply for parole. Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. Blood, cuts, limo driver who saw him come in, the shoe print, the blood in the car and on the socks in his bedroom. Why did CK shoot the kids multiple times and DD once? She had a bullet wound in the arm, and the three kids in the back of the blood-soaked car had all been shot at close range. It will not make me popular, but I dont mind. Wasnt he the stranger? She was not in the car when her children were shot. No. Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. If you shoot at least 6 inches from a victim, you see what is around you in the car. As a rule, any child under the age of ten prompts counsel to question the competence of any testimony that child might give. 5. No, Im not that gullible, Okay, I just read that she faked throwing her keys. Wasnt Mr. F supposed to be a child molester? She was judged very harshly for her character and her defense was dismal. As usual, Diane had resorted to the soothing comfort of a pregnancy to pretend life would get better; she would create a nest around her, come hell or high water. Is Diane really a threat anymore? Her case was too public and they are afraid of public backlash. ?.the fact you are ignoring something SO OBVIOUS is a red flag. They were the small sacrifices. Oh my. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information The fact that the accused in this case was atypical, makes her the perfect target. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. Growing up, Diane had felt like an outsider and kids had been cruel towards her because of her real or imagined ugly duckling looks and demeanor. She has been denied parole 2x and is up again in 2020. You seem to believe everyone is innocent. Can you imagine your little boy growing up to beat to death (with his bare hands and boots) Is she referring to her ex husband? ), Interesting suggestion. What was the rationale behind this? It is said that they didn't go to Steve because he wasn't a fit father or well equipped to take care of children who had gone through such a traumatic experience. That conflict of interest alone would incline Christie to testify against her mother. So yes I think she did it, I think ration left her a long before she did itI think post pardum played in this, I think, she was scattered all over the map.againjust hearing it in her own words. Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, Why did the mean man shoot me? and it would be written down in the daily notes. How about dads side of the family? Two jurors had voted that Diane was not guilty of attempted murder or first-degree assault, but endedup voting to convict her of murder. There were a few calls and on one occasion, The most frequent remarks I hear about the case when confronted by the state misconduct and the lack of evidence are gut feelings , So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb. Not an easy situation for him as I would imagine. 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